tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post7769898580417249955..comments2023-03-26T03:47:29.469-04:00Comments on Peter St. Onge: On homosexuality, a discussion that's different than othersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-26536057467207314052011-11-30T20:56:41.300-05:002011-11-30T20:56:41.300-05:00One of the cases made against homesexuality is bas...One of the cases made against homesexuality is based on leviticus 18:22. There are many different translations but they essentially say the same thing :Homosexual sex is a sin or detestable. However, Leviticus 24:45 also declares that it is okay to purchase non-Israelite slaves, which is something that in modern times is no longer debated seriously. How can we throw out certain parts of the bible because "It was different back then", without making the same argument for all of it's laws, such as those regarding homosexuality? Food for thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-89739490023348587432011-05-23T06:18:48.867-04:002011-05-23T06:18:48.867-04:00The great part about this story is the respect tha...The great part about this story is the respect that the pastors showed one another, even in the face of their disagreement.<br /><br />The subject matter may well have been illegal immigration, the war in Iraq, or CMS funding -- it's secondary. It doesn't matter.<br /><br />The point is, it's only through character, patience and intellectual discourse that we will make any headway on the tough issues: not through blindly attacking one another based solely on belief.<br /><br />Charlotte has a lot to learn from these two persons of faith.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-88131012939078293382011-05-22T23:18:41.581-04:002011-05-22T23:18:41.581-04:00I am so grateful that I dont let religion mess wit...I am so grateful that I dont let religion mess with my head.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-7202321236536954602011-05-22T21:30:20.175-04:002011-05-22T21:30:20.175-04:00"the Church of Rome, the only true church&quo...<i>"the Church of Rome, the only true church"</i><br /><br />Of course it is. Who do those Presbyterians think they are anyway, starting their own church? And what about those Baptists and Methodists? More fake churches, huh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-22456161166218138642011-05-22T21:21:55.932-04:002011-05-22T21:21:55.932-04:00IMHO A Biblical World View is that homosexuality i...IMHO A Biblical World View is that homosexuality is sexual immortality just as is adultery, fornication, pedophilia, polygamy, and bestiality. Homosexual activists and their allies know that the Judeo-Christian sexual ethic found in the Bible is the last bastion of defense holding back the widespread embrace of homosexuality throughout culture.<br /><br />Gay strategists Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen , in their landmark homosexual public relations manual published in 1989, boldly encouraged gays to “undermine the moral authority of Bible Believing churches…by portraying such institutions as antiquated backwaters, badly out of step with the times and with the latest findings of psychology.”1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-16952552661917099932011-05-22T17:09:18.313-04:002011-05-22T17:09:18.313-04:00People should be allowed to marry - or have intima...People should be allowed to marry - or have intimate relations with - whomever they choose. Even if it's one man and 3 women. As long it is consenting adults, in private, it's no one's business. And in response to another post, I feel no one should be engaging in kissing or public affection in front of children. What would you be saying to that child if the couple who was seen kissing was, say, a 50 year old white man and a 19 year black woman?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-62735342557537070522011-05-22T15:45:27.599-04:002011-05-22T15:45:27.599-04:00Other than the other Booklical references does Sod...Other than the other Booklical references does Soddom and Gomorrah ring a bell? Ouch.<br />How many survived in these wicked cities? <br />They even tried to sodomized the angels coming to help Lott and his fam get the hell out. Big mistake. <br /><br />How did they die? Imagine fire and hot rocks aka brimstone raining down from the sky? Must have been painful on bare flesh. Everybody was burned alive. Nothing survived. Even Lotts wife was turned into a pillar of salt for looking back in disobeyance. <br /><br />And the Big Guy had just drowned the whole earth not long earlier too. Millions dead.<br /><br />I am not mocked. Vengence is mine. <br /><br />HE is one badass muthafuka and dont be fukin around or mincing words. <br /><br />Just obey. Dont question how or why. U playing with fire otherwise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-745763538463610412011-05-22T15:34:05.006-04:002011-05-22T15:34:05.006-04:00To the poster who claims that almost 20% of the p...To the poster who claims that almost 20% of the population is homosexual, get real. This condition, orientation, or whatever you term it, afflicts only about 2% of males and even fewer females. That's the real figure, though gay activists inflate it way beyond that. <br /><br /> Source: Pscychologist James Nicolosi, the primary authority on<br />this topic in the USMurraybnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-11711340731916094662011-05-22T15:27:48.358-04:002011-05-22T15:27:48.358-04:00Hey shalom, Perhaps it's because a four year o...Hey shalom, Perhaps it's because a four year old knows two men shouldn't be laying down on a blanket in public ( or anyone else for that matter) and kissing each other.toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08532005829677782346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-88785182657065023422011-05-22T15:01:26.043-04:002011-05-22T15:01:26.043-04:0011:24 So people are born that way.
If so we have...11:24 So people are born that way.<br /><br />If so we have too many people in jail for too many things that they were born with, and we need to start changing a lot of laws. Not sure how we are going to protect some of the most innocent in our society though. <br /><br />And as far as God making us that way I guess he makes the killers and the like and those are not choices we have a decision in making either.<br /><br />All of you have good points. Keep that in mind those of you who have good jobs it only because God created you with a good job in mind and College and the like.<br /><br />See how everything external is the cause of your life, and your rights are and should be dependent on what is in your mind, and not on a physical disability, or if you are female, male or age, color etc the usual things people can use today.<br /><br />We really could use some precogs today could we not?Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07977808657926308272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-79534863415969836232011-05-22T14:46:44.786-04:002011-05-22T14:46:44.786-04:00The fact of the matter is that love is radical, su...The fact of the matter is that love is radical, sublime, always dangerous. Christ knew this. This is why he preached love, NOT hate. Hate is for those who are scared, for those who are weak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-35236778297231298112011-05-22T14:33:48.210-04:002011-05-22T14:33:48.210-04:00The reality is this...homosexuality is a lifestyle...The reality is this...homosexuality is a lifestyle CHOICE. There will be a bunch of people that disagree, but how many people who were once gay are now straight? Our society is now demanding that we give into everyone's CHOICES no matter what they are. Think not? How does an organization like NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) continue to exist? Oh, and what are the men in that group? GAY! Homosexuality is a deviant behavior that is anything but normal. Those that think is it normal need to have their morals checked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-33977576466482628692011-05-22T12:37:53.354-04:002011-05-22T12:37:53.354-04:00Disagreement isn't bashing or homopohobic as t...Disagreement isn't bashing or homopohobic as the gay community often accuses others of doing/being when they disagree with thier positiom. I remember being at a 4th of July event up in Asheville a few years back when my then four year old Son who obviously had no idea what homosexuality was at the time asked me why two men were laying down on a blanket and kissing. If a four year old knows something is abnormal about this behavior why can't the adults among us? MAY 22, 2011 8:36 AM<br /><br />HeyTodd, if your child asked that, it was because he was curious and hadn't seen it before,presumably because his parents are straight. He might have sensed your disaproval too.<br />FYI, the correct answer is, "because they love each other."shalomcharlottehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01818824538087696860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-22388514113209290672011-05-22T12:20:09.689-04:002011-05-22T12:20:09.689-04:00Anon 11:24
There are those who would disagree wit...Anon 11:24<br /><br />There are those who would disagree with you.<br /><br />Everything is "God given", even our opinions.<br /><br />The basic premise of the argument from gays is that their "civil rights are being violated by not being able to <i>marry</i>", a man made law.<br /><br />Therefore, under man made laws, polygamists should have the same "right" to <i>marry</i> more than one woman.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-55602097933663685432011-05-22T12:00:12.179-04:002011-05-22T12:00:12.179-04:00I just can't get too worked up over the "...I just can't get too worked up over the "gay" issue.<br /><br />As long as they stay out of my life, I'm fine with whatever consenting adults do in private.<br /><br />The same way I feel about everyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-6129453232145752172011-05-22T11:43:51.964-04:002011-05-22T11:43:51.964-04:00I am glad not to be burdened by the silliness of r...I am glad not to be burdened by the silliness of religion. Now I just wished that those who are would not impact my life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-71081181457134357542011-05-22T11:24:38.099-04:002011-05-22T11:24:38.099-04:00Interesting article. I appreciate the positive dia...Interesting article. I appreciate the positive dialogue, rather than the finger-pointing and righteous moral demagoguery. <br /><br />To answer the question posed by a few about the slippery slope of "allowing" homosexuality in churches, the key difference is that homosexuality is an orientation that you are born with (God-given, that exists in as much as 20% or more of the public). You are not born a polygamist or bigamist or S&M enthusiast. You ARE, however, born with an orientation, whether that be hetero or homosexual. <br /><br />God makes straights AND gays in His image and likeness. <br /><br />Move on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-72593346198174776292011-05-22T10:25:21.570-04:002011-05-22T10:25:21.570-04:00The polyganists will be next to demand equal right...The polyganists will be next to demand equal rights. Afterall, why shouldn't one man be able to legally "marry" two or more women if they all love each other?<br /><br />Funny how polygyny was part of the Mormon religion but outlawed and now religion is embracing homosexuality.<br /><br />Make civil unions legal in all 50 states and let's move on.Wiley Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966764080565903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-75545914790327746932011-05-22T10:01:05.307-04:002011-05-22T10:01:05.307-04:00"the Church of Rome, the only true church, do..."the Church of Rome, the only true church, does not tolerate gay activity, iota, among parishioners. Period. Finished. You may talk of gay but use the member and you'll end up in H---."<br /><br />Glad to know the church is the one who determines where my soul goes and not God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-704188667387119712011-05-22T09:03:36.276-04:002011-05-22T09:03:36.276-04:00What heterosexuals worry about is that lewdness an...What heterosexuals worry about is that lewdness and ridiculous drag-style behavior will have to be accepted as the norm since it is widely accepted in the homosexual lifestyle. There's a broad range of homosexuals from the normal and decent acting and looking types to the outlandish, anything goes types. The lewdness side of homosexuality should never be tolerated in society, but homosexuals in general, should. I believe this is what the Bible was referring to that Kate mentioned, re: lust vs sexual orientation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-53520800082731144442011-05-22T08:58:22.495-04:002011-05-22T08:58:22.495-04:00Thanks, Ozy. You make a terrific point about the c...Thanks, Ozy. You make a terrific point about the challenges writers face when choosing topics. If I'm going to write about a general subject, I'd better bring something different to the table. I thought the moment this week allowed me to bring a couple of points to the discussion that I hadn't seen previously in the O. <br /><br />Thanks for your thoughts...<br /><br />Peterpstongehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17339785715553747223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-39518185583339240142011-05-22T08:45:28.449-04:002011-05-22T08:45:28.449-04:00Christianity is a lie.Christianity is a lie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-18628340026240854972011-05-22T08:36:17.809-04:002011-05-22T08:36:17.809-04:00Disagreement isn't bashing or homopohobic as t...Disagreement isn't bashing or homopohobic as the gay community often accuses others of doing/being when they disagree with thier positiom. I remember being at a 4th of July event up in Asheville a few years back when my then four year old Son who obviously had no idea what homosexuality was at the time asked me why two men were laying down on a blanket and kissing. If a four year old knows something is abnormal about this behavior why can't the adults among us?toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05118617416103736432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-50826063301299244272011-05-22T08:33:22.311-04:002011-05-22T08:33:22.311-04:00I am sorry to persist BUT, and there's always ...I am sorry to persist BUT, and there's always a but:<br />the Church of Rome, the only true church, does not tolerate gay activity, iota, among parishioners. Period. Finished. You may talk of gay but use the member and you'll end up in H---.<br />What the vestry does & why, God only knows.georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12088398662268026064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4069744000849776605.post-4913609222023479782011-05-22T08:32:24.971-04:002011-05-22T08:32:24.971-04:00Thank you, Peter for making my point.
People in t...Thank you, Peter for making my point.<br /><br />People in the south and Charlotte particularly will always rush to click on gays + religion. So of course certain (not all) tongues will wag and continue to wag about this sliver of Protestants and their decision a week ago.<br /><br />Any newspaper worth its ink should inform its readers, not hand them yet another venue to amplify their petty disputes. You could have generated just as many mouseclicks by discussing the conservative NYC financiers.<br /><br />BTW: Every other website this morning has the news on Mitch Daniels' decision not to run for the GOP nomination. Even the N&O. Where is the CO?<br /><br />OzyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com